How are smaller, weaker countries able to successfully resist the influence of larger and more powerful nations? And why does the US so frequently fail to turn its economic and military might into an advantage in international relations? The answers to those questions have a lot to do with understanding and exercising “leverage” according to Robert Hathaway, Public Policy Fellow and Director Emeritus of the Wilson Center’s Asia Program. He joins us to discuss his new book The Leverage Paradox: Pakistan and the United States, in this edition of Wilson Center NOW.

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Robert M. Hathaway is a Public Policy Fellow and director emeritus of the Asia Program at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.  He served as director of the Wilson Center’s Asia Program from 1999 to 2014. Prior to joining the Wilson Center, he served for twelve years on the professional staff of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives, where he specialized in U.S. foreign policy toward Asia.  Earlier in his career, he was a member of the History Staff of the Central Intelligence Agency.  He has also taught at George Washington University and at Barnard, Middlebury, and Wilson Colleges. He holds a Ph.D. in American Diplomatic History from the University of North Carolina. Hathaway’s most recent book is The Leverage Paradox: Pakistan and the United States, which uses the troubled relationship between Pakistan and the United States to explore broader questions about the use of American power, and in particular, why smaller, weaker countries are so often successful in defying larger, stronger states.  


John Milewski is the executive producer and managing editor of Wilson Center NOW and also serves as director of Wilson Center ON DEMAND digital programming. Previously he served as host and producer of Dialogue at the Wilson Center and Close Up on C-SPAN. He also teaches a course on politics and media for Penn State’s Washington Program.